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New Balrog switch install did not solve problem, still no detection. Stumped!

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Post by paulohotline Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:50 pm

Hey Now, I have swapped out the Balrog switch with a new one from Pinball life received today and I am still getting zero detection in the switch test in diag mode. I am not sure if its the diode that is fubared now. I am definately stuck now. Any suggestions fellow pinheads?

I think I did a pretty good job of soldering this tricky switch into place! Too bad it did not solve the problem:

https://i.servimg.com/u/f75/17/79/34/56/balrog10.jpg

https://i.servimg.com/u/f75/17/79/34/56/balrog11.jpg

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Post by Malibu-ss Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:47 pm

I wonder if maybe you have a broken wire leading to the switch?
Balrog does move back and forth all the time.
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Post by paulohotline Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:53 pm

Nope, the Balrog open and close switch test fine in diag mode. It was moving only when commanded by the code, "Bash Balrog" etc, just no detection on hits. The Balrog is currently off the playfield but the Balrog motor is kicking in on game start.

If it is a broken wire, I am going to have to do some more troubleshooting....
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Post by Malibu-ss Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:10 pm

but does the switch not move with the Balrog?
The switch is inside the Balrog correct?
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Post by paulohotline Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:27 pm

The switch is inside\behind the Balrog and only activates when the Balrog is hit and pushed back. I think it may be a broken wire leading from the switch, but its all shrink wrapped. I am not very handy with the meter so I may need some help in fixing this one Smile

Here is the location of the switch on the Balrog:

https://i.servimg.com/u/f75/17/79/34/56/balrog12.jpg
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Post by paulohotline Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:10 pm

I pulled out and unplugged the wire and broke out the multimeter. The green wire has no continuity, it must have a break somewhere in the shrink wrap. So the switch was fine after all! What a waste of time!!!!!!!

Now I have to find some spare wire....
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Post by paulohotline Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:44 pm

Found the break... how the hee haw does a wire break inside the shrink wrap? Next time I am breaking out the meter early instead of assuming its a flakey switch, damn pinsider tech support Smile

https://i.servimg.com/u/f75/17/79/34/56/broken10.jpg
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Post by Malibu-ss Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:24 pm

it breaks because the wire moves all the time.....happens on cars all the time.
replace the wire.......do not just solder that one together.
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Post by paulohotline Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:24 pm

Hey now too late! I already soldered it, taped it, and put the Balrog back together... I take it the wire will most likely break again Sad Oh well, when that happens, I know where to look now!
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Post by paulohotline Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:51 pm

Orderd this on ebay for $15 bucks shipped to Canada so when it breaks down again I will just replace the entire thing:

Lord Of The Rings Pinball. Replacement Balrog Wiring Harness
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=251225399493
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